Electrified death matches

[darktowerchilde]

Hmmm, here's an odd question. Does anyone know the exact or proximate voltage used on the electrified barbed wire ropes in FMW? I've heard anywhere from 100, 200, 2,000, and 20,000 and some matches were billed using the number of volts. Does anyone know for sure or would have a knowledge of electricity that could pinpoint a voltage where it wouldn't kill the person, but it look all cool and sparkly, while leaving a burn mark on their back

[Toan]

To be perfectly honest with you... I don't think they have ever wired the barbwire up to an electrical generator as if they did it wouldn't make those explosions and burn marks on the people touching the barbwire. They'd just go into spasm as the electricity surges threw their body back to earth.

The most a human can take before the heart is shocked into stopping is 250 volts if I remember right from my Science lessons back in secondary school.

In reality they are more likely to wire up tiny explosives (like C4 or something less powerful) which has some sort of trigger on the strands of barbwire or maybe there is someone nearby with a detonator.

Don't take my word as the gospal truth, though... this is just the best way I can describe it.

[Supah Indy]

They're really just small black powder charges (similar to an M-80) stringed up on barbed wire and set off by a small charge.

You can be shocked by more than 250 volts as long as there is not any amperage running through it. It's the amperage pressure that kills you and not the electricity itself. That's what I learned in auto shop and science class.

[Pheonix_Chi25]

I agree with all of you. All though the worst "Electrified" deathmatches were the ones with Kudo Vs Toyota and Tanaka Vs Kodo

[Toan]

I can understand the Tanaka Vs Kodo match as Deathmatches aren't/weren't Kodo's specialty but WTF is this about Kudo Vs Toyota?

That match between them was excellent as far as psychology and workrate inside a Deathmatch goes as well as it being the first ever Womens' Exploding Barbwire Deathmatch in the world.

[Supah Indy]

Phoenix, are you sure you didnt mean Shark Tsuchiya vs. Kudo? I mean, if you did, I could understand, although I like Toyota vs. Kudo. I think while it is overrated (I found the match very sloppy) it wasnt that bad of a bad match.

[Toan]

I imagine it's difficult to work in a Barbwire Match as the wrestlers are used to bouncing off the ropes rather than avoiding contact with them.

[Supah Indy]

I like the Goto vs. Onita match from August 1990. The first time they used the "Electricity". They were so green because it had never been done before that Onita even tripped and became "shocked" by the explosions. The fact that they didnt know what to expect made that match so special (for me anyways).

[darktowerchilde]

Maybe he means worse as in the amount of punishment they took.

[Pheonix_Chi25]

Thanks for correcting me Indy. The Shark/Kudoh match was, IMO, brutal. The way Kudoh's head hit the explosives, Shark burned her hair, and Kudoh still won.

[Supah Indy]

Yeah, that match was sick. I'm baffle that Kudo lived through that. Shark looked like she was being extra rough as a way of saying "Bye Kudo, thanks for ditching FMW!". lol.

[darktowerchilde]

That and Shark didn't bumb or sell that much for her. Once Kudoh left, the female division in FMW pretty much dried up. Shark was a huge no talent and it shows when you compare her match with Kudoh to the one Kudoh had with Combat Toyota. And the sheer amount of punishment that Kudoh took was insane; it was easily one of the most one-sided deathmatches I've ever seen not involving Mr. Pogo or Tiger Jeet Singh.

[Supah Indy]

Shark did bump. She took the chain drag bump into the pit (which was VERY sick also) and the final double bump. She didnt bump as much though. And she hardly sold like you said.

The first Kudo vs. Shark barbed wire match was alot better IMO.

TJS, I agree. But Pogo used to bump also. Maybe not all the time, but back when he was a face in W*ING, he bumped a good bit. 90-95 FMW he bumped too. Now a days he really doesnt bump because he's 53 and can barely walk. lol.

[Toan]

Agreed... the first Barbwire Match between Shark and Kudo was better than Kudo's retirement Deathmatch.

IMO, Shark and Pogo both represent the old-school Deathmatch-style heel of an almost invincible cartoon super-villian type character. Granted it wouldn't have hurt them to sell for their opponents a little more as well as take more bumps but that's old-school FMW for you.

Still... at least Kudo won the matches.

[Pheonix_Chi25]

Speaking of Megumi, I saw a pic of her at the Sabu benefit show, she looks awesome!