Why does every japanese wrestler that comes to WWE turned into jobber

[pigman]

Why does every japanese wrestler that goes to WWE a jobber. They either give him some stupid gimmick or he always loses to a guy that my little brother could beat. I surprised that they let Yoshihiro Tajiri tag team champion. Thats probably all that they will allow him to have. I'm not mad at WWE or anything its just that they treat wrestlers with such amazing ability like crap.

[Mco543]

They cant get over or connect with the fans. The only Japanese wrestler thats ever gotten over and/or significantly connected with the fans was Muta. The reason he was headlining WCW pay-per views and winning their championships wasnt only because he was doing things noone has ever seen before it was because the fans loved him and wanted to see him. Muta and the fans had a connection whereas Tajiri and the WWE fans dont. Yea they enjoy seeing him but they dont care one way or the other noone buys a ticket to a raw house show hoping to see Tajiri.

[kwilson83]

I beg to differ, Mco553. Throughout different points of his career, Tajiri has been very over with the fans. He was in ECW, and he was during his time as a tag team champion with Eddie a few years ago. The problem is he never gets a push that lasts for longer then a month or two, and then he fades back. While I don't think he is on the level to be the world champion, I believe that he could be more successful if he was given a longer push and a more important storyline.

Fans don't pay to see most mid-carders, but it is also the job of Creative to get the fans to care through storylines. Really, I think there are only 4 or 5 wrestlers in the WWE that people buy a house show ticket just to see, and that does not include the Smackdown! world champion So that probably isn't a real fair benchmark to set to determine if a wrestler is successful or not.

[MARTYEWR]

Basically, it's whether Vince sees them as anything special or not. Lots of them CAN get over. Tajiri has. Funaki has. TAKA Michinoku (while with Funaki) had. The brief series in 1997 between TAKA Michinoku and the Great Sasuke got over well with the fans. Kenzo Suzuki (while not exactly a favourite of mine) has received solid reactions. But again, it's whether or not Vince McMahon sees anything in them to push them into the upper card. The WWE has always been not about making the fans happy, but making Vince (as well as Hunter these days) happy. Actually, you can say that about a lot of other promotions as well.

[One to Remember X]

What Vince sees is not always right. With Muhhamed Hassan I compare with the Iron Sheik with the WWF title in 1983 I compare Kenzo with Mr. Saitō with the AWA World title. The problem is Vinch want experiment like his dad. No one gets chances and long shots arnt even explored for a week or month. Why even bother with hiring him at all if he has no faith? It want hurt the company to give it a try. Stan "the man" Stasiak would've vouched for me.

[Luds]

Reasons:

#1: Most talented puro wrestlers stay in Japan

#2: WWE doesn't care at all about cruiserweights. That's why Akio and Tajiri are jobbers.

#3: Kenzo Suzuki sucked in New Japan, so he won't be much better in WWE!

[One to Remember X]

#1. Not ex-NWA World champion Masa Chono. Jushin Liger. Mr. Saito, ex-AWA World champion. The WWF tried to give TAKA a legit chance as LHW champ. Tanaka was ECW World champion. Ultimo Dragon. Mr. Fuji in his prime.

#2. X-Pac is a crusierweight and so is Jericho. Jericho is a high mid-carder. I believe Christian is an ex WWF light hw champ. Guerrero was WWE champ and an ex Welterweight and Crusierweight champ. X-Pac came close to main eventing at times and joined the NWO. You see Mysterio at the Rumble?

#3. Ultimo Dragon hasnt sucked ANYWHERE yet he sucked in WWE. Somethins gotta be done and a J free TNA his the closest soluction.

[kwilson83]

1. All those wrestlers you named were not full fledged wrestlers in the WWE except for TAKA and maybe Saito. Chono only had a handful of matches on American soil, so he can hardly count period. The topic says "WWE." Liger, Chono, and Tanaka were not in the WWF(E).

2. All those wrestlers don't wrestle as a cruiserweight any longer. The only option a lightweight has IS to move up to a different weight class. Mysterio, in case you haven't watched Smackdown lately, doesn't usually wrestle cruiserweights now. It's the division Vince doesn't care about, some wrestlers have been lucky/skilled enough to move up.

3. Dragon didn't suck in WWE. He just wasn't pushed. His matches I thought were quite entertaining.

[One to Remember X]

although the W(W)WF/E would be included in question 1 it wasnt directly in reagards to WWE but WWE would still be a huge part of any equation.

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#1. Not ex-NWA World champion Masa Chono. Jushin Liger. Mr. Saito, ex-AWA World champion. The WWF tried to give TAKA a legit chance as LHW champ. Tanaka was ECW World champion. Ultimo Dragon. Mr. Fuji in his prime.

#2. X-Pac is a crusierweight and so is Jericho. Jericho is a high mid-carder. I believe Christian is an ex WWF light hw champ. Guerrero was WWE champ and an ex Welterweight and Crusierweight champ. X-Pac came close to main eventing at times and joined the NWO. You see Mysterio at the Rumble?

#3. Ultimo Dragon hasnt sucked ANYWHERE yet he sucked in WWE. Somethins gotta be done and a J free TNA his the closest soluction.

One To Remember, seriously, you missed the point completely.

#1 Chono, Liger, Saito, TAKA, Tanaka only had minor stints in America.
The point which you missed is that basically every major Japanese stars stay in Japan. Name them. Kobashi, Misawa, Muta, Chono, Kawada, Choshu, Koshinaka, Hase, Fujinami... All the talented Japanese guys spent like 95% of their time in JAPAN. THAT's was the point.

#2 I'm talking about the CRUISERWEIGHT DIVISION here. Again you missed the point completely. I'm not talking about wrestlers who make it and have a cruiserweight weight like Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho... I'm talking about CRUISERWEIGHTS. Like the fact that WWE puts about 10 minutes of cruiserweight action per show. They don't give a **** about them. WCW used to have at least 2 or 3 cruiserweight matches per shows, and many of these matches were classics since they had plenty of time to work to play with.

#3 WWE has Kenzo, who sucks. They had Ultimo and didn't use him see point #2. They have Akio who isn't used see point #2. They have Tajiri. See point #2. The POINT here is that WWE only has untalented Japanese wrestlers (like Suzuki) or cruiserweights which they don't use (point #2.)

[MARTYEWR]

To add to Luds' first point, Masato Tanaka never went to the WWE ever. He was only in ECW when in North America.

BTW, Luds, how have you been? Haven't seen you in a while. Vacation?

[One to Remember X]

I think Tanaka and Saito are fair to mention due to the WWF's habbit of taking top ECW and AWA stars.

As for Jericho I actually couldnt believe Y2J because when I last saw "lion heart" in WCW he was still winning Crusierweight titles and only recently got his hands on the TV title. I think its not that Mcmahon doesnt care but more the WWE/Sports entertainment structure. Meaning that the top titles already command/auto-receive respect and that other titles would need to run on absolute star power. Meaning each week we'd need to have Liger, Dragon, Red, AJ Styles, X-Pac, Mysterio, Nicho, Low-ki, Spanky, P. Williams and etc. on the roster would provide the star power to get it time. It takes alot but I dont see other ways to jump start it. They aint got WCW's visa card so this is about it.

[Pheonix_Chi25]

This is all the more reason Yoshihiro "The Artist Formerlly Known As Ultimo Dragon" Asai does not return to the WWE anytime soon.

[OrangeCrush51]

American wrestling is all about sports entertainment, and you can't do the entertainment well if 1) you don't speak the native language fluently, 2) you're very visibly foreign and 3) you're not familiar with pop culture, what's cool, etc. You can bring the most talented, technical wrestler in the world and put him in an American promotion, but if he's from a completely different country with completely different attitudes to the spor, you're not going to get over.

Taijiri and Funaki have gotten over, but it's been despite their Japanese backgrounds. Fans respect them for their skill but they like them for the humorous bits they've done or the spots they've performed. But like it's been said, unless Japanese superstars can give a Rock-like or Austin-like promo, no one's going to care enough to see them be majorly pushed.

Japanese wrestlers will likely only be midcarders. Assuming the promotion is about sports entertainment and not garbage wrestling (ECW) or sheer ability (ROH). Japanese stars would be better off in those venues.

[Luds]

American wrestling is all about sports entertainment, and you can't do the entertainment well if 1) you don't speak the native language fluently, 2) you're very visibly foreign and 3) you're not familiar with pop culture, what's cool, etc. You can bring the most talented, technical wrestler in the world and put him in an American promotion, but if he's from a completely different country with completely different attitudes to the spor, you're not going to get over.

This is a perfect summary of why WWE sucks so much and why they've been losing 50% of their fan base in the last 2 years.