Finisher suggestions

[Puroresu newbie]

One thing I've read about puroresu which is different from wrestling in the states is that there are tiers of finishers. Wrestlers have a finisher they use for regular matches, a more powerful version of their normal finsiher, and then a desperation move which is only used on the rarest of ocassions, when they're in dire straits. Like Misawa with the Tiger Suplex and Tiger Driver, the more powerful versions of those moves in the Tiger Suplex '85 and Tiger Driver '91, and the Emerald Fusion/Frosion, which is only used on special occasions. I was wondering if anyone could help suggest some moves from puroresu that could fill those roles.

The normal finisher--I don't know what you'd call it--goes like this:The attacker applies a front face lock on the victim, then grabs the victim's near leg and hooks it to facilitate lifting.The attacker lifts the victim to a 45-degree angle and then fall backwards driving the victim's head into the mat. I was wondering if there were any way this could be upgraded puro-style, to a Tiger Suplex '85, Tiger Driver '91 more powerful equivalent, and also a "rare, lethal finisher" somewhere along those lines. Some kind of head-dropping move, and puro seems to be full of those. Thanks in advance.

[pigman]

Are you talking about the Fisherman's Buster?

[Puroresu newbie]

No, it's not a Fisherman's Buster, because in a Fisherman's Buster the guy is vertical when you drop, whereas here, the guy's body is at a 45-degree angle. Like I said, I dunno what you'd call it.

[darktowerchilde]

Hmm, well it could be some sort of variant LSD III or weird driver indy guys use. Could also be an implant DDT variant made to look nasty since it's so low to the ground. If you wanted to puroresit up, you could go for some cradle variant.

[Puroresu newbie]

Never seen the LSD III, but yeah, I guess it could be considered an Implant DDT variant. Cradle variant? Hmmm...how would that go?

[darktowerchilde]

The LSD III starts out with a Fisherman's suplex-esque lift and turns into a Michinoku Driver II (while still holding on to the leg). A cradle variant could be a tighter lock before dropping back or hooking another limb first, thus making it look like it hurts more.

[Kaiju]

You mean the Ki Krusher by any chance?

[Pheonix_Chi25]

If memory serves me right, and from the way he describes it, it is the Ki Krusher or one of Low Ki's variations.

[darktowerchilde]

Yeah, it's the Ki Krusher. Sorry, should have remembered that Low Ki does it too. Lioness Asuka invented it.

[Kaiju]

Anyone else find it kinda funny both him and Homicide got their finishers from watching women's wrestling from Japan?Just thought I'd point that out.

[darktowerchilde]

Same could be said about Michael Modest. And anyone who uses a DVD/DVB. Or a Northern Light's Bomb (Northern Right), and all those Indy guys who use stuff like the Japanese Ocean Suplex. Joshi is awesome. Frankly, it would be great if more American "strong style" wrestlers used their moves. It would be even greater if they emulated their sense of timing and psychology.