Hi, I'm new here and fairly new to Puroresu wrestling... I've not seen many shows, but I just had a couple of questions...
Firstly, can anyone please provide me with a description of the Cobra Twist, the Nippon Seionage and the Hawaiian Smasher? (I've read about them in recaps, but don't quite know what they look like...)
About the Cobra Twist, it's similiar to the Ab Stretch, but you would also put press down on the neck with both hands instead of primarily securing the near arm.
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You may be right; however, for some reason I was thinking that the Fire Thunder Strike was the Greetings from Ashbury Park (Bam Bam Bigelow) and was a variation of the Sit Out Square Driver (aka, the Rikishi Driver and the Tenzan's TTD)
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"ippon" is a counter for certain thing. In Japanese, there's a certain way to count for each object. For example, flat things such as paper, discs, dishes can be counted, "ichi-mai(1), ni-mai(2), san-mai(3), yon-mai(4)" so on. For stick-like objects such as sticks, bones, poles, we count them, "ippon(1), nihon(2), sambon(3), yonhon(4)," so on.
Arms are counted "ippon, nihon, ....". I always thought they called the move "ippon seoinage (or "ippon-zeoi")" because the participant throw the opponent through his back (seoi = carrying on the back, nage = throwing) by grabbing only one arm (ippon) of the opponent. I maybe wrong on this one, though.
I believe Kensuke Sasaki used the counter ippon-zeoi as his finisher during his WCW stint as US champ. I wasn't really paying too much attention to his matches, so I can't be sure.
Hmmm, interesting. Well in Japanese martial arts, not just in Judo, "ippon" is used to describe a full point.
Example, in Karate the scoring sysem goes to three points. Strikes get you a half point, but certain strikes, eg kicks to the head, or counter-blows will score an ippon.
From what I remember, you can score Ippon (a win in Judo) on a perfectly executed "Ippon Seoinage", but you might only get one of the lesser marks (Yuko, Koka...) from it instead if it isn't hit perfectly.
So the Ippon in "ippon seoinage" probably does stand for one arm.
Last edited by Dr Feelgood; 2002-06-18 at 06:18 AM.
Hisa you would be correct. Sasaki would use a hammer throw/irish whip and catch them off of the ropes. That was back in the day when they were trying to push Erik Watts as a wrestler (guess it helps when daddy is the boss)
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