Ultimo Dragon returning without mask

[Kinnikuman131]

So, has ultimo shown up without his mask yet? I havent seen him yet, maybe somebody has, i mean this topic seems like its hot, with all the talking and and stuff.

[Rizzob]

No he hasnt shown up yet and its only hot because one to remember is annoying the hell out of a lot of people it seems (not me, since i dont know whats really going on, but others)

[edgehead1984]

Well I wish Ultimo would come back to the WWE, but I have come to think he won't be...I won't comment on the other happenings in this thread...

[Rizzob]

Personally I think it would be career suicide if he went back to the WWE, at least when he was in WCW he was pushed and given title reigns and put on PPV's. How many PPV's was he on for WWE, Wrestlemania XX? that match was awful, it just showed that the WWE doesnt care about the cruiserweights other than Rey Mysterio. They hyped his big entrance to the WWE but then didn't do anything with him because Vince didn't like his style, wtf did he expect him to convert to a sports entertainment style of wrestling? Even WCW was a wrestling company and let him showcase his abilities. WWE is all about the big men, people like Dragon can become legends anywhere in the world but too the WWE they are nothing which really annoys the hell out of me.

[Tradewynd]

OTR, listen up, because this is another free education, and you may not get any more if you don’t start learning something. I strongly suggest you go to a wrestling school, because you seem to be in great need of a reality check. You are the only one on this board who has clearly shown that he does not understand the business time and time again.

My credibility comes from constantly saying intelligent things. When I started in MMA I was so busy that I didn't have time to post here for more than a year. When I stopped taking so many fights and had free time again people here still remembered me. Lots of guys, many of whom have also been trying to smarten you up, sent emails and PMs to express their happiness. My wrestling acument comes from being a worker, MMA fighter, booker and assistant promoter.

Before you bury McMahon and Russo, maybe you should thank them for saving wrestling in North America. Most people don't realize that the way things were going the WWF would not have made it to Wrestlemania 14. Crash TV saved the wrestling business. There is no for better or worse about it. Without Vince's double cross and Russo taking ECW concepts to a more entertainment oriented direction there would be no wrestling in North America. ECW would have brought in WWF guys for huge paydays hoping to make it up in home video sales that would not happen. WCW would still have been shut down when AOL came in. He saved wrestling. On the subject of Russo in TNA, the most power he had, aside from the shoot SEX stuff, was on a writing team with Double J, Double J Sr., Double G, and JB. And yet he still get blamed for every problem with the show.

The Elvis impersonator you're running down was one of the most over heels during one of wrestling's hottest periods. Doink was also a very innovative heel. Outsiders vs. Jenna and company did one hell of a quarter hour, which was the point.

While it does not seem popular to bring this us, putting the WCW Title on Arquette was Fat Tony's idea. He took the idea to Russo as a publicity stunt. Russo took to it Bischoff and Bischoff thought it was a great idea. Russo then took it to all of the boys to ask if anyone had a problem with it. Everyone said they thought it was a great idea. Blaming Russo for that situation is simply ludicrous.

On Goldberg, he did not really get hit with a stun gun. He's not a garbage worker. Or a worker for that matter. He took the stun gun because he didn't want to sell for Hall. Russo told Goldberg to break the limo window with a baseball bat. Goldberg thought breaking a window with a bat would make him look "weak" and was below him, so he used his bare hand like the idiot he is. Hall was drunk on Nitro because Bischoff was making fun of his real life alcohol problems.

The NWA knew Shane Douglas was going to throw down the title. The plan was for Douglas to act like he was too good for the NWA, and then have the NWA force him to defend the title. ECW leaving the NWA was the doublecross.

Sammartino held the belt as long as he did because he was drawing. Duh.

I fail to see how watching IWA on WEEE-TV proves you are not stupid. Your posts would suggest quite the opposite.

What we did to learn about puroresu was buy lots and lots and lots of tapes, back when they were at least 10 bucks per tape, and put up with jumpy pictures and crappy quality to do it. We furthermore listened to people who knew more about the business than ourselves, and hail ZACH as the lord and savior of puroresu and MMA info. Almost all reputable tape dealers deal in puroresu, AJ and NJ at the very least, for the last 5 years.

ECW got their image across by buying lots of syndication, which was very expensive.

The Japanese notion of ethnocentrism, while at the same time being filled with American trash and secretly wishing it was a part of Europe is certainly an interesting topic for academic analysis, however has nothing to do with anything else you rambled on about.

You are ridiculed because you very rarely, if ever, say anything remotely intelligent. I am beginning to regret comparing you to Dale Gagner, because he hasn’t personally wronged me, and it was not my intention to slander his name by associating it with you. I don’t say bad things about people unless they’re actually true.

[kurama_tengu]

Bravo Tradewynd! Bravo!....Oops, I wasn't supposed to stick my nose in anyone's business here(despite the fact that this is a public forum).

Anyway, back to the original topic. I hope Ultimo doesn't return to the WWE, hood or no hood. If he returns he'll end up doing more jobs than the "Hey Mon!" family on the old "In Living Color" TV show. I'd like to remember Asai-san as one of the best pound-for-pound workers that I remember from all of the older WCW and NJPW matches I saw him in.

[Hisaharu Tanabe]

It's not worth to keep this thread open. You know whom to blame. I know he will continue trying to waste my time, but meanwhile, y'all can simply ignore his posts by adding him to your ignore list.