Tiger Driver '91

[Haiku Warrior]

Can someone tell me what this move looks like... its a 'double underhook piledriver'... so is it like a pedigree.... Regal uses a type of underhook/pedigree combo from time to time... is that it?

[Muiyan]

a TD'91 starts like a normal Tiger Driver/Pedigree (read: double underhook). But whereas a TD flips you over and a Pedigree hits you face down, a TD'91 pulls you up and drops you square on the top of your head. Do i remember sometime last year that Misawa wanted someone to take a TD'91 off the top rope? Hahah, what a bastard.

***Edit: No wait, sorry. It was an Emerald Frosion off the top rope. Still a bastard though!

[TRZZXQ]

Considering the kind of bumps Misawa takes, and has taken, I don't think it's too outrageous for him to ask for someone to return the favour.

[Haiku Warrior]

Okay... Regal has used that move from time to time. Although his might be more of a shoulder breaker than a head spike, but I'm probably wrong.

Triple H used to use the move as his pedigree, I believe, but was probably banned because it was too risky...

Thanks Muiyan

[Muiyan]

No problemo, Haiku Warrior

But from what i remember (haven't watched WWE in a while), Regal's move is nowhere as lethal as the TD'91. Yes, probably because it's a shoulderbreaker more than anything. On paper, they sound like the same thing, but on execution, the two are quite different. Hope i can find a pic somewhere...

Oh, and i believe that i've seen Triple H's "ganso pedigree" ( ) that you're talking about, and yes, that's the closest to a real TD'91. Only that the victim's body isn't as straight up-down as in Trip's move.

[ShinzakiFan]

Haiku Warrior, did you see Rodney Mack's squash match against Hurricane Helms a week or two ago on RAW? The move he finished Helms with was fairly similar to the TD'91, closer than Regal's move.

[Haiku Warrior]

Originally posted by ShinzakiFan
Haiku Warrior, did you see Rodney Mack's squash match against Hurricane Helms a week or two ago on RAW? The move he finished Helms with was fairly similar to the TD'91, closer than Regal's move.

Who's Rodney Mack?

Muiyan... are you talking about the vid clip circulating on iMESH & etc. with Trips giving a very painful looking peddy to HBK & it looked like HBK was pretty messed up & Trips looks like "That had to hurt"

I'm going to try to upload that... can you do videos on here? I'm gonna look around... I know I have that somewhere.

[Stumpdriver2002]

Just think of it as an under-rotating Tiger Driver.

It's almost as if a green worker were to mess up the Tiger Driver, except Misawa plans it that way.

It don't look crisp, but man it looks PAINFUL. A true Death-Move if I've ever seen one. (Still no Burning Hammer though!!!!)

[Muiyan]

Haiku Warrior, there's only ONE clip of the "ganso pedigree" on the net and i'm sure we're talking bout the same one, but no that's not HBK. He dresses similar, but that guy's just some jobber.

Stumpdriver2002, the devastation level of both the Burning Hammer and the TD'91 is bout the same, methinks. I mean, look at the Burning Hammer when the victim's coming down (in this case, i'm using Misawa as an example). See, when Misawa comes down, his body is like all sideways by the time he hits the mat. Plus, he kinda ducks his head into his body so his shoulders take most the shock.

A TD'91, on the other hand. You got NOWHERE TO HIDE. You can't duck your head anywhere cuz you're being double-underhooked and upside down. You can turn your head anywhere and in the end you'd still break your neck.

The perk with the Burning Hammer though, is that it's got the height (being on the shoulders of Kobashi? Driving headfirst into the mat? Yikes..), and the perk with TD'91 is that you can't hide your head.

[ShinzakiFan]

Originally posted by Haiku Warrior
Who's Rodney Mack?

The former OVW and ECW wrestler who's replaced D'Lo Brown as the black guy who thinks white wrestlers are treated better on RAW. He's utterly useless, but I just thought you might like to know his finisher is closer to the TD'91 than Regal's move.

[TWolf]

Is that the guy who almost crippled Al Snow on a botched TD '91 a few weeks ago.

[ShinzakiFan]

Yeah, that's him.

[edgehead1984]

That was a sick sight to see, Mack the rookie, crippling Snow the veteran.

There would of been hell to pay.